Wednesday, April 18, 2012

So bombing people isn't hostile..... - Page 3

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Er, no. Obama has made just as many if not more gaffes than Bush ever did.




Compare the human death toll on each president's gaffes.|||this thread got boring fast

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Its not a question of what people think of him. That's what propaganda is for. To make people think a certain way.




Every election campaign consists of let's say 60-90% of that.|||I wasn't talking about the elections.


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Compare the human death toll on each president's gaffes.




Are you referring to the daily body count that mysteriously disappeared when Obama was elected, despite the fact that we are now engaged in four wars? |||I suspect one president's total kills is higher than the others'. If I have the choice of getting punched in the nuts twice or ten times, I'm going to choose the lower number.|||Quote:








I wasn't talking about the elections.




When an election is over, new elections are about to occur. Whatever a politician does or whatever happens to him, it might have a significant effect on some elections in the future (which is the foundation of his power) and that's why it's used for propaganda, by his own supporters and those of his opponents. An election campaign is just a more intense way of doing that.|||Quote:








I was talking about how people in general observed it.




So are we. "people in general" are uninformed because they accept what the media feeds them, rather than having any inquisitive nature.


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It's a part of a politician's job to appear in a favourable light and Obama or his supporters are simply more successful at that than Bush was.




Undeniably; in point of fact EVERY leftist is "simply more successful" than anyone who isn't. Simply put, the media despises and fears anyone with conservative tendencies - even someone with only nominal tendencies like Bush or Giuliani. The media adored McCain because he was not conservative, until he ran against their beloved Dear Leader; now they're treating John Huntsman like he's the Second Coming in order to kneecap the GOP primaries.


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You can certainly find embarassing moments in Obama's career as well, but there are less of them




False; as Glurin correctly points out there are far more of them, and of greater severity.


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and people seem to let him get away with them because they don't regard them as that important, whatever the reason might be.




The media pounds insanely on issues, such as Tina Fey's impression of Palin, in order to implant ideas in the sheeple's consciousness. Why do you think the Obama White House were instructed to read the book, "Animal Spirits"? Progressives and Leftists think of people as subjects and proles, not individuals.


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After all, Obama won the elections, that must have a reason.




THE ONE has already pointed that out repeatedly, since He's so insanely arrogant that He can brook no criticism. Unless you mean his winning the election itself, which I already provided the link about "Journolist" and the media collusion to hide Obama's plentiful weaknesses and shortcomings.


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I suspect one president's total kills is higher than the others'.




The Left always tries to muddy the count with the concept of civilian casualties, which they admit now to have blatantly falsified.


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If I have the choice of getting punched in the nuts twice or ten times, I'm going to choose the lower number.




How about getting punched in the nuts once a year for eight years, versus thrice in one? Being in a bar fight rather than a day in the park? Running around naked versus sitting in your car?|||Quote:








So are we. "people in general" are uninformed because they accept what the media feeds them, rather than having any inquisitive nature.




It doesn't matter why. It is as it is.


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Undeniably; in point of fact EVERY leftist is "simply more successful" than anyone who isn't. Simply put, the media despises and fears anyone with conservative tendencies - even someone with only nominal tendencies like Bush or Giuliani. The media adored McCain because he was not conservative, until he ran against their beloved Dear Leader; now they're treating John Huntsman like he's the Second Coming in order to kneecap the GOP primaries.




Again, you are talking about what appears to be the truth for you and why things ended up as they did, but that's irrelevant after a decision has been made. All you can do is convoncing people for the next time. I'm not talking about next time nor am I interested in it in reply to one of my posts.

BTW, beft and right is relative to what's in the middle, but the middle of the US is a lot to the right of what's typically the middle of most European states. In an European context, I don't think there are many leftists in the US. Obama is none. He would be a right wing social democrat at most.


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False; as Glurin correctly points out there are far more of them, and of greater severity.




Yet again, that's more of a matter of what actually happens in contrast to how people observe or adjucate it.

If you are a stuntman and you make a severe mistake, you are dead. If you are a politician and make a mistake, others might influence or decide about its severity while a lot of people see certain stereotypes, prejudice or their illusions of a world being confirmed or attacked and react accordingly. 50% of which prejudice it will be, are a matter how things are presented by your team or the media.

People have laughed more about Bush than they do about Obama. You might want to correct that because you believe that it's not the truth, but it's still like that, even if you are right (to which I will neither agree or disagree here).


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The media pounds insanely on issues, such as Tina Fey's impression of Palin, in order to implant ideas in the sheeple's consciousness. Why do you think the Obama White House were instructed to read the book, "Animal Spirits"?




I've never heard of that, so Obama and his team were successful at making it irrelevant for me (and probably most others as well).


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Progressives and Leftists think of people as subjects and proles, not individuals.




It's the same with all people in positions of power who make decisions for the "greater good".|||Quote:








Again, you are talking about what appears to be the truth for you and why things ended up as they did, but that's irrelevant after a decision has been made. All you can do is convoncing people for the next time. I'm not talking about next time nor am I interested in it in reply to one of my posts.




Not "what appears to be the truth for you". It is the truth, period. There is no pretending the media (with one notable exception) isn't working for the left wing in this country.


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BTW, beft and right is relative to what's in the middle, but the middle of the US is a lot to the right of what's typically the middle of most European states. In an European context, I don't think there are many leftists in the US. Obama is none. He would be a right wing social democrat at most.




Which is why Europe is completely screwed. You've got a scale of huge government v.s. huge government. We've got a scale of large government v.s. small government.


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It's the same with all people in positions of power who make decisions for the "greater good".




Not true. It certainly wasn't that way for our founders. What made this country great was treating people like people, not subjects that must be ruled over and controlled.|||There is no absolute truth, there are only opinions.

Some people might say that's why the US is completely screwed.

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