Have you ever had to restrain somebody full of adrenaline because they were freaking out over you restraining them? Its not as easy as it sounds.
All I'm saying is don't be hasty. A picture may be worth a thousand words, but they aren't always the truth.|||I'd like to see the results of the investigation when it's done.
Where is the video from the police cars?|||Quote:
Have you ever had to restrain somebody full of adrenaline because they were freaking out over you restraining them? Its not as easy as it sounds.
Not sure you're catching my drift.
When the police execute a no-knock raid, for example, the homeowner inside sometimes thinks he's being robbed and grabs his gun. When the police inevitably blow him away, their next statement is always "Well, he had a gun. What else could we have done?"
The answer is simple: Quit putting yourself in a situation where you have to gun down innocent people, and then you'll find yourself not gunning down innocent people.
The man wasn't even accused of any crime. He just happened to be in an area police were searching. I think beating a schizophrenic homeless man to death in the name of "restraining" him is pretty grotesque. Why couldn't they just not attempt to restrain him? Oh wait, because then people wouldn't RESPECT THEIR AUTHORITAH!|||nvm............|||Quote:
Have you ever had to restrain somebody full of adrenaline because they were freaking out over you restraining them? Its not as easy as it sounds.
All I'm saying is don't be hasty. A picture may be worth a thousand words, but they aren't always the truth.
I have noticed that we have wildly different base values but still making excuses for ppl when they beat a guy to death and saying a guy using harsh language should be fired that fuc*ing amazing tbh.
Yes i agree that the cop in the first video was not the best example of the boys in blue.
But a guy picking up hookers might not be the best suited to take the moral highground either.|||Its not making excuses. Its believing in the presumption of innocence. The cop in the concealed carry license video was caught red handed. The evidence in the cops beating a man to death case is currently lacking, at least publicly, and is contaminated by the high emotional response things like this typically evoke. Its as simple as that.|||Quote:
Its not making excuses. Its believing in the presumption of innocence. The cop in the concealed carry license video was caught red handed. The evidence in the cops beating a man to death case is currently lacking, at least publicly, and is contaminated by the high emotional response things like this typically evoke. Its as simple as that.
If the police in that case believed in presumption of innocence, there would be one less dead innocent. Police have a civic responsibility to subdue "uncooperative hotheads" in a manner that doesn't kill said hothead. Any action to the contrary is criminal negligence, manslaughter, or murder. There was CLEARLY no threat to officers or others since every bystander not only didn't flee, many moved closer to get a better look.|||Quote:
If the police in that case believed in presumption of innocence, there would be one less dead innocent. Police have a civic responsibility to subdue "uncooperative hotheads" in a manner that doesn't kill said hothead. Any action to the contrary is criminal negligence, manslaughter, or murder. There was CLEARLY no threat to officers or others since every bystander not only didn't flee, many moved closer to get a better look.
People put themselves in bad situations all the time. Ever hear the term "rubbernecker"? The crowd not running away doesn't mean there is no threat.
Anyway, like I said, all I'm arguing is that you shouldn't grab the pitchforks and torches just yet. If we lynched somebody every time we got some fuzzy video and a story from someone looking for their turn in the spotlight, there wouldn't be much of a country left. Its better to follow the presumption of innocence, even if you have to hold your nose to do it.|||I couldn't draw any information out of the first post. The link just shows a forum page. Maybe I didn't search hard enough, but I'm actually not in the mood of doing that. If there an unbiased report about it, one which would be acceptable by all of the usual forum factions here?
Assuming that this is about the video in posting #18, I have to agree to Glurin here. I saw the video with no sound. It shows absolutely nothing, so whatever might be heard, it might be added or manipulated. I'm not going to say that the police is always right in case of doubt, but the video on its own doesn't serve as a proof. However, there might be a number of eye witnesses with no serious reason to question their credibility...|||Quote:
I couldn't draw any information out of the first post. The link just shows a forum page. Maybe I didn't search hard enough, but I'm actually not in the mood of doing that. If there an unbiased report about it, one which would be acceptable by all of the usual forum factions here?
Here you go krischan. The video from the original topic. Pretty open and shut.
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